Conrad Saam
Conrad Saam Mockingbird Marketing
Tim Stanley
Tim Stanley Justia
Law Firm SEO The Value of Legal Profiles for Search and AI LLMs
Law Firm SEO: The Value of Legal Profiles for Search and AI LLMs

In today’s competitive legal landscape, standing out online is more important than ever. This webinar will explain how optimizing the online presence of your law firm and individual attorneys can help you control your online reputation, improve your search rankings, and increase your visibility in AI LLMs (Large Language Models). Learn how well-crafted legal profiles can boost your credibility, attract and win clients, and ensure your practice thrives in an evolving digital environment. Whether you're new to SEO or looking to refine your strategy, this session will equip you with actionable insights to stay ahead of the curve.

Topics covered include: SEO & Websites Legal Marketing
Duration of this webinar: 60 minutes
Originally broadcast: February 06, 2025 11:00 AM PT
Webinar Highlights

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Introduction to Speakers and Topics
Conrad Saam and Tim Stanley are introduced as speakers, with Conrad's background in legal marketing and Tim's role as CEO of Justia. The webinar will focus on the value of legal profiles for search and AI LLMs, emphasizing the importance of comprehensive profiles. Tim provides an overview of search engines and AI platforms, explaining how they aggregate data to provide search results. He uses Conrad Saam's profile as an example of how lawyers can optimize their online presence across various platforms. Tim notes the growing trend of using AI LLMs for researching individuals, highlighting the importance of having a well-rounded online profile.
Importance of Legal Profiles
Tim discusses the increasing importance of legal profiles in AI models and the need to control the information presented. He emphasizes the significance of website profiles, which are trusted by both Google and AI LLMs. Attorney profiles should be comprehensive, with each attorney having their own page to enhance visibility and client engagement. Tim highlights the importance of Google Business Profiles, which are crucial for law firms and should be filled out properly. He advises on the use of lawyer directories like Justia, recommending free profiles and linking back to websites. Tim notes the decline in directory prevalence but acknowledges Justia's strong performance in ranking above other directories. He discusses the role of social media profiles, particularly LinkedIn, in enhancing a lawyer's online presence.
Managing Online Presence and Directories
Tim explains how text on profiles can influence search rankings and the importance of consistent name, address, and phone number information. He advises on the smart use of tracking numbers in Google Business Profiles to maintain ranking and tracking capabilities. Tim highlights the role of services like Yext and Moz in managing phone numbers and other profile attributes. He discusses the importance of linking profiles to specific practice areas and the nuances involved in directory listings. Tim emphasizes the need for standardized information across directories to enhance visibility and control over profiles. He notes the growing use of AI and LLMs in researching individuals and the importance of having comprehensive profiles. Tim predicts the future integration of AI in personal interactions, underscoring the need for proactive profile management.
AI and Legal Marketing Strategies
Tim and Conrad discuss the pros and cons of individual practitioner pages versus Google business profiles for law firms. Tim explains the potential confusion caused by splitting reviews between business and individual profiles. Conrad explains possible exceptions Tim and Conrad discuss NAP consistency and the challenges posed by DBA names in confusing LLMs. Tim advises against using random keywords in firm names and suggests focusing on brandable names for rebranding. They discuss the strategic use of multiple addresses for Google business profiles and the risks involved. Tim advises on the importance of having legitimate addresses and the potential penalties for abusing the system.
Challenges with Google Business Profiles
Tim explains the process of updating Google Business Profiles and the importance of early changes to avoid falling off maps. Conrad advises on running queries to identify important listings for name changes and the role of prominent directories. They discuss the impact of directory services like Yext and the importance of focusing on directories that matter. Tim addresses the issue of Google suspending listings and provides strategies for overcoming suspensions. He highlights the importance of having real offices and signage to avoid suspension issues. They discuss the role of legal directories in SEO and Tim advises against paying for directories that don't offer value. Tim emphasizes the importance of filling out profiles completely to enhance visibility and client engagement.
Fake Reviews and Reputation Management
Tim and Conrad continue to discuss strategies for multiple offices and multiple Google Business Profiles. They discuss the impact of fake reviews on firms and the difficulty in managing negative reviews. Conrad highlights the unfair advantage large firms have in generating reviews due to volume, not necessarily quality. They discuss the role of AI in detecting fake reviews and the limitations of current systems. Tim advises on the importance of genuine reviews and the challenges in maintaining review integrity.
Competing in Legal Directories
They discuss the role of AI in content creation and the importance of unique profiles for SEO. Tim advises on structuring content with questions and answers to enhance engagement and visibility. He highlights the importance of unique content across different platforms to avoid duplication and enhance visibility. He highlights the impact of AI on long-tail traffic and the need for strategic content creation. They end by discussing how small firms can compete with larger firms and the importance of branding.

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Speakers
Conrad Saam
Conrad Saam President
Mockingbird Marketing

After leading marketing efforts for Avvo, Conrad Saam founded Mockingbird, an online marketing agency focused exclusively on legal. Called the “Gary V of Legal”, Conrad is the author of Own the Map published by the American Bar Association and The FindLaw Jailbreak Guide, co-host of Lunch Hour Legal Marketing with Gyi Tsakalakis, a Google Small Business Advisor, and held positions for various ABA’s Practice Management marketing committees. Read More ›

Tim Stanley
Tim Stanley CEO
Justia
Tim Stanley is the CEO and founder of Justia, one of the most visited legal portals in the world. Justia’s mission is to make law and legal resources free for all. Before founding Justia, Tim founded and was CEO of FindLaw. He is the general counsel and on the Board of Trustees of Public.Resource.Org, and was previously on the Board of Nolo and American LegalNet. Tim has a BS and MS from Stanford University and a JD from the University of Michigan Law School.
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